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:So, this is something that the wiki editing community reached a consensus on last year right after Coco's graduation. We decided against using past tense of "is", because it implies that the subject has passed away. Instead, using "is" with "former" is our agreed-upon approach. You can find this conversation in the #wiki-chat channel on our wiki Discord server. [[User:Aesulus|Aesulus]] ([[User talk:Aesulus|talk]]) 11:04, 5 March 2022 (JST)
:So, this is something that the wiki editing community reached a consensus on last year right after Coco's graduation. We decided against using past tense of "is", because it implies that the subject has passed away. Instead, using "is" with "former" is our agreed-upon approach. You can find this conversation in the #wiki-chat channel on our wiki Discord server. [[User:Aesulus|Aesulus]] ([[User talk:Aesulus|talk]]) 11:04, 5 March 2022 (JST)
::I was banned there, remember? I even thought that I'd become the "[[w:Persona non grata|persona non grata]]" of the wiki. <span style="font-size:1.5em;">🦖️</span> [[User:Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<ruby><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:1.12em;background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,148,188,1) 35%, rgba(23,133,173,1) 100%);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">my Name is Katsumi</span><rp>(</rp><rt style="color:black;font-size:.95em;text-shadow:0 0 5pt #40bcff;">'''BA↗RI↘BA↗RI↘'''</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby></span>]] <div style="background:black;display:inline;padding:.3em .65em;border-radius:1em;font-size:105%;font-family:FOT-Fate_Go Skip B,serif;">[[File:KamenRiderRevice-logo.webp|18px|link=]] [[User talk:Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<span style="color:#40bcff;">talk</span>]]</div> <div style="background:black;display:inline;padding:.3em .65em;border-radius:1em;font-size:105%;font-family:FOT-Fate_Go Skip B,serif;">[[File:KamenRiderRevice-logo.webp|18px|link=]] [[Special:Contributions/Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<span style="color:#40bcff;">contributions</span>]]</div> 19:32, 5 March 2022 (JST)
::I was banned there, remember? I even thought that I'd become the "[[w:Persona non grata|persona non grata]]" of the wiki. <span style="font-size:1.5em;">🦖️</span> [[User:Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<ruby><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:1.12em;background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,148,188,1) 35%, rgba(23,133,173,1) 100%);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">my Name is Katsumi</span><rp>(</rp><rt style="color:black;font-size:.95em;text-shadow:0 0 5pt #40bcff;">'''BA↗RI↘BA↗RI↘'''</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby></span>]] <div style="background:black;display:inline;padding:.3em .65em;border-radius:1em;font-size:105%;font-family:FOT-Fate_Go Skip B,serif;">[[File:KamenRiderRevice-logo.webp|18px|link=]] [[User talk:Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<span style="color:#40bcff;">talk</span>]]</div> <div style="background:black;display:inline;padding:.3em .65em;border-radius:1em;font-size:105%;font-family:FOT-Fate_Go Skip B,serif;">[[File:KamenRiderRevice-logo.webp|18px|link=]] [[Special:Contributions/Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<span style="color:#40bcff;">contributions</span>]]</div> 19:32, 5 March 2022 (JST)

== [[w:Hepburn romanization|Hepburn transliteration]] for all names in Japanese ==

I noticed that many Japanese names for [[Hololive|''Hololive'']] members lack something that I, and guys from Wikipedia dubbed as "[[wikt:transliteration|transliteration]]". This is very crucial for wikis whose pages contain a handful of Japanese words (written in Japanese, of course).

According to Wikipedia:
:Wikipedia uses the version of Modified Hepburn described below because it is generally accepted by scholars and it gives a fair indication of Japanese pronunciation to the intended audience of English speakers. People who care about other romanisation systems are knowledgeable enough to look after themselves.

Even Fandom wikis like [[wikia:kamenrider:Main Page|Kamen Rider Wiki]] and [[wikia:ultra:Ultraman Wiki|Ultraman Wiki]] often transliterate a plethora of words, ideas, names transcribed in Japanese. And maybe we should, too, starting with names.

<big>'''Examples'''</big>

* [[Gawr Gura]] (Japanese: がうる・ぐら, Hepburn: ''Gauru Gura'')
* [[Mori Calliope]] (Japanese: 森カリオペ, Hepburn: ''Mori Kariope'')
* [[Ouro Kronii]] (Japanese: オーロ・クロニー, Hepburn: ''Ōro Kuronī'')
* [[Hakos Baelz]] (Japanese: ハコス・ベールズ, Hepburn: ''Hakosu Bērutsu'')
* [[Airani Iofifteen]] (Japanese: アイラニ・イオフィフティーン, Hepburn: ''Airani Iofifutīn'')
* [[La+ Darknesss|{{Hover title|Laplus Darknesss|La+ Darknesss}}]] (Japanese: ラプラス・ダークネス, Hepburn: ''Rapurasu Dākunesu'')

<big>'''See also'''</big>

* [[w:WP:ROMAJI#General guidelines|Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#General guidelines]]

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<span style="font-size:1.5em;">🦖️</span> [[User:Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<ruby><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:1.12em;background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,148,188,1) 35%, rgba(23,133,173,1) 100%);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">my Name is Katsumi</span><rp>(</rp><rt style="color:black;font-size:.95em;text-shadow:0 0 5pt #40bcff;">'''BA↗RI↘BA↗RI↘'''</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby></span>]] <div style="background:black;display:inline;padding:.3em .65em;border-radius:1em;font-size:105%;font-family:FOT-Fate_Go Skip B,serif;">[[File:KamenRiderRevice-logo.webp|18px|link=]] [[User talk:Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<span style="color:#40bcff;">talk</span>]]</div> <div style="background:black;display:inline;padding:.3em .65em;border-radius:1em;font-size:105%;font-family:FOT-Fate_Go Skip B,serif;">[[File:KamenRiderRevice-logo.webp|18px|link=]] [[Special:Contributions/Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562|<span style="color:#40bcff;">contributions</span>]]</div> 19:35, 20 March 2022 (JST)

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Hello there. 🦖️ my Name is Katsumi(BA↗RI↘BA↗RI↘)

20:04 Uhr, 2. Januar 2022 (JST)

On referring to retired members

Is it okay to use the past tense when referring to retired idols?

Example:

Uruha Rushia (潤羽るしあ) is a necromancer-in-training and a former member of the Hololive 3rd Generation of VTubers. She is a well-mannered and introverted girl who always strives to keep her fans entertained, even at her own expense.
She enjoys playing a wide genre of games, ranging from social simulation games, to shooting games, to horror games. She especially finds the Resident Evil/Biohazard series to be the most fun. Rushia is sensitive about her small breast size and gets teased about it often by other streamers and her viewers.
Her representative emote is a butterfly, because of the butterfly imagery on her dress.

Uruha Rushia (潤羽るしあ) was a necromancer-in-training and a former member of the Hololive 3rd Generation of VTubers. She was a well-mannered and introverted girl who always strived to keep her fans entertained, even at her own expense.
She enjoyed playing a wide genre of games, ranging from social simulation games, to shooting games, to horror games. She especially found the Resident Evil/Biohazard series to be the most fun. Rushia was sensitive about her small breast size and got teased about it often by other streamers and her viewers.
Her representative emote is a butterfly, because of the butterfly imagery on her dress.

Katsumi a.k.a. Upperdecker2562 (talk) 23:55, 4 March 2022 (JST)Reply[reply]

So, this is something that the wiki editing community reached a consensus on last year right after Coco's graduation. We decided against using past tense of "is", because it implies that the subject has passed away. Instead, using "is" with "former" is our agreed-upon approach. You can find this conversation in the #wiki-chat channel on our wiki Discord server. Aesulus (talk) 11:04, 5 March 2022 (JST)Reply[reply]
I was banned there, remember? I even thought that I'd become the "persona non grata" of the wiki. 🦖️ my Name is Katsumi(BA↗RI↘BA↗RI↘) 19:32, 5 March 2022 (JST)

Hepburn transliteration for all names in Japanese

I noticed that many Japanese names for Hololive members lack something that I, and guys from Wikipedia dubbed as "transliteration". This is very crucial for wikis whose pages contain a handful of Japanese words (written in Japanese, of course).

According to Wikipedia:

Wikipedia uses the version of Modified Hepburn described below because it is generally accepted by scholars and it gives a fair indication of Japanese pronunciation to the intended audience of English speakers. People who care about other romanisation systems are knowledgeable enough to look after themselves.

Even Fandom wikis like Kamen Rider Wiki and Ultraman Wiki often transliterate a plethora of words, ideas, names transcribed in Japanese. And maybe we should, too, starting with names.

Examples

  • Gawr Gura (Japanese: がうる・ぐら, Hepburn: Gauru Gura)
  • Mori Calliope (Japanese: 森カリオペ, Hepburn: Mori Kariope)
  • Ouro Kronii (Japanese: オーロ・クロニー, Hepburn: Ōro Kuronī)
  • Hakos Baelz (Japanese: ハコス・ベールズ, Hepburn: Hakosu Bērutsu)
  • Airani Iofifteen (Japanese: アイラニ・イオフィフティーン, Hepburn: Airani Iofifutīn)
  • La+ Darknesss (Japanese: ラプラス・ダークネス, Hepburn: Rapurasu Dākunesu)

See also


🦖️ my Name is Katsumi(BA↗RI↘BA↗RI↘)

19:35, 20 March 2022 (JST)